Understanding Pakistan

30 Aug, 2000    ·   411

Report of the IPCS Discussion held on 25 August 2000


 Speakers

 

 

Shaukat Qadir, Director, IPRI, Islamabad &

 

 

Riffat Hussain, Quaid-e-Azam University , Islamabad

 

 

On 25th August 2000, The Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies organised a closed door seminar on the subject ‘Understanding Pakistan’ with a group of scholars from Pakistan and Germany , headed by Shaukat Qadir, Director,  Islamabad Policy Research Institute (IPRI). Other members of the Pakistani group included Fasahat Hussain, Senior Research Fellow, IPRI, Dr. Riffat Hussain, Chairman, Department of Defence and Strategic Studies, Farha Zahra, Senior Research Fellow, IPRI.   Dr. Karl Fischer, former German Ambassador to India and consultant to the Hans Sidel Foundation, and Dr. Hein Kiessling, resident representative of the Hans Seidel Foundation were also a part of the group.  The Executive Committee  of the IPCS and Deputy Director, Major General Ashok Krishna (retd.) and some otheres formed the Indian group.

 

 

Shaukat Qadir in his presentation observed that at the time of their independence both, India and Pakistan claimed secularity. However, while in Pakistan religious parties struggled to establish their credibility, India has provided the space for religious parties to come to power. In 1979, when Russia invaded Afghanistan , Pakistan became the frontline state in the region and received US patronage to counter the Communist threat. The US needed a quick fix and jehad seemed to be the most effective way of achieving US interests in Afghanistan . Hence madrasas were set up in Afghanistan and became active in producing jehadis against the Communists. Most of these were Sunni madrasas. The Taliban was not always as powerful as it is today. Patronage to the Taliban by the US started in 1989 when the Russians started pulling out of Afghanistan . However after Taliban took over Afghanistan , the focus of jehad moved from Afghanistan to Kashmir .

 

 

Today, the Central Asian Republics , along with the Gulf states , are the energy centre of the world. And between India and this region stands Pakistan . It would suit both India and Pakistan to cooperate in accessing this region for mutual benefit. 

 

 

Moving on to the Kashmir issue  Shaukat Qadir said that from the recent developments in Kashmir, it is clear that the  Hizb-ul- Mujaihideen is a front for the Jamaat-e-Islami in Pakistan.  When the Hizb announced the cease-fire, the Emir of the Jamaat was sitting in the US . Hence it was not possible for the Jamaat to have made the cease-fire offer risking the accusation of buckling down under US pressure. The only other agency that could have had any  influence on the Hizb was the Pakistani government and its representatives.  When the cease-fire was made, Indian’s reaction was one of caution and distrust. It was inevitable that the talks broke down. 

 

 

The fact that Pakistan is currently under military rule also contributes to some extent to the atmosphere of mistrust between India and Pakistan . The restoration of democracy is desired by all in Pakistan . However, while in power, the military can initiate a process of dialogue taking a more relaxed view of India . India , too, should respond by taking a more benevolent view of Pakistan .  Keeping in mind the internal political dynamics in both countries, it is imperative that  any solution regarding Kashmir does not project one side as the victor and the other as the loser.  For any solution to be permanent both sides have to make sure that the other side does not lose face.

 

 

Dr Riffat Hussain enumerated the following points that must be kept in mind while attempting to resolve the Kashmir dispute.

 

 

§ South Asia is an extraordinarily poor region. All indices of socio-economic development show that both India and Pakistan have not followed people-centred development policies. 

 

 

§ Regional economic integration in South Asia is abysmally low. SAARC has not been effective forum and is in a sad state. This contributes to the slow economic development of the region. 

 

 

§ Planning capacity of the state, especially Pakistan has not been exemplary. For example, on the question of placing a moratorium on further nuclear testing, both the Pakistan and the Indian government have been unable to convince public opinion about the merits of the case. This is an example of civil society having run amok in both countries.

 

 

§ The domestic political agenda dominates in both countries with the governments being unable to project on a larger vision in economic and political terms.

 

 

§ There has been a retreat of liberalism in both Pakistan and India with the processes of Talibanisation and right wing Hindu nationalism gaining influence in the respective countries.

 

 

Discussion & Comments

 

 

§ India and Pakistan must shed the Cold War hangover that the international community will come to their aid in resolving bilateral disputes. South Asia as a region does not have strategic value to merit t attract international attention in any meaningful way. 

 

 

§ To create a win-win situation in resolving the Kashmir dispute the status quo has to be accepted as was done during the Irish peace process. In Kashmir the status quo has lasted since 1948. An engagement can only be constructed if the status quo is not destabilized.

 

 

§ Both India and Pakistan must become aware of the fact that it is in the interests of the international arms lobby to keep the Kashmir dispute alive. In fact, intellectuals and organisation are hired by this lobby to further their interests. India and Pakistan must become wise and nor spend money on arms that can well be spent on development.

 

 

§ Both India and Pakistan have to convey to the world that they are not out to destroy each other and are responsible countries. The myth of Kashmir being a nuclear flashpoint must be countered. Military to military contacts can go along way towards risk reduction between the two countries. Further, we cannot wait for the Kashmir dispute to be solved before we initiate other diplomatic measures to de-escalate tensions. For any meaningful dialogue to take place violence in Kashmir must stop. 

 

 

§ Unless there is free movement of goods and services in the South Asian region, there will be very little regional economic development. India is in the process of building free trade areas with Sri Lanka and Bangladesh . Pakistan must realise it stands to only gain from this economic integration.

 

 

Response

 

 

§ Status quo might not be the final answer to the Kashmir problem; however, it is more important to talk than to set preconditions for talks. Solutions will follow.

 

 

§ India should take Gen. Musharraf up on his offer of talks, and at least  see what he has to offer. In fact India should respond to offer of talks from the Hizb, as it shall definitely lead somewhere. 

 

 

§ Reciprocity must exist in any proposed talks because the domestic constituency in both countries would demand an explanation for any concessions granted by either side.

 

 

§ Economic integration of South Asia is essential if the region has to compete in the globalising world.

 

 

 

 

 

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